{"id":10745,"date":"2025-03-10T11:39:21","date_gmt":"2025-03-10T10:39:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sprf.asso.fr\/sprfwp\/?p=10745"},"modified":"2025-03-12T17:57:37","modified_gmt":"2025-03-12T16:57:37","slug":"paris-istamboul-allers-retours","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sprf.asso.fr\/sprfwp\/2025\/03\/10\/paris-istamboul-allers-retours\/","title":{"rendered":"PARIS-ISTANBUL, aller(s)-retour(s)"},"content":{"rendered":"

En 2023, un projet d\u2019\u00e9changes cliniques et th\u00e9oriques entre analystes en formation de la SPRF et de l\u2019Association psychanalytique d\u2019Istanbul (API) a vu le jour sur l\u2019initiative d\u2019Alper Sahin, membre de l\u2019API et responsable d\u2019un groupe de travail consacr\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tude de la psychanalyse fran\u00e7aise, et de Zo\u00e9 Andreyev, membre de la SPRF.<\/p>\n

Les deux soci\u00e9t\u00e9s entretiennent depuis de nombreuses ann\u00e9es des relations \u00e0 la fois scientifiques et amicales et nos membres formateurs sont r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement sollicit\u00e9s par l\u2019API pour venir \u00e0 Istanbul animer des s\u00e9minaires et mener des supervisions de groupe d\u2019analystes en formation.<\/p>\n

Ce projet s\u2019inscrit donc dans une histoire qui en contient plusieurs\u00a0: histoires de nos soci\u00e9t\u00e9s respectives et de leurs liens, histoire des relations culturelles entre la France et la Turquie et, bien s\u00fbr, l\u2019histoire de la psychanalyse, une histoire multiculturelle, multilingue, une histoire de voyages, d\u2019exils, de retours, de s\u00e9parations et de rencontres \u2013 \u00e0 l\u2019image, peut-\u00eatre, de chacune de nos odyss\u00e9es (internes ou externes) personnelles.<\/p>\n

La premi\u00e8re r\u00e9union, qui s\u2019est tenue \u00e0 Paris en novembre 2023, a \u00e9t\u00e9 consacr\u00e9e \u00e0 une discussion (en anglais) sur la formation et sur les activit\u00e9s scientifiques de nos deux soci\u00e9t\u00e9s, leurs similitudes et diff\u00e9rences, ainsi que sur leurs liens historiques. Nous avions \u00e9t\u00e9 impressionn\u00e9s par la vitalit\u00e9 et par l\u2019\u00e9nergie d\u00e9ploy\u00e9e par les membres et analystes en formation de l\u2019API pour diffuser la psychanalyse en Turquie gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 l\u2019organisation d\u2019\u00e9v\u00e9nements culturels consacr\u00e9s aux liens entre psychanalyse, litt\u00e9rature, cin\u00e9ma, \u00e9v\u00e9nements qui rencontrent un grand succ\u00e8s aupr\u00e8s du public.<\/p>\n

La r\u00e9union avait \u00e9t\u00e9 suivie d\u2019un d\u00e9jeuner o\u00f9 nous avions pu faire plus amplement connaissance. Nos coll\u00e8gues stambouliotes nous avaient fait la surprise d\u2019un magnifique cadeau accompagn\u00e9, \u00e9videmment, de d\u00e9licieux loukoums\u00a0!<\/p>\n

\"\"La symbolique du contenant d\u2019un c\u00f4t\u00e9, des origines de l\u2019autre[1]<\/a> a fonctionn\u00e9, puisqu\u2019\u00e0 la fin de notre r\u00e9union, nous nous \u00e9tions mutuellement engag\u00e9s \u00e0 organiser une \u00ab\u00a0visite retour\u00a0\u00bb \u00e0 Istanbul, cette fois-ci consacr\u00e9e plus sp\u00e9cifiquement \u00e0 des \u00e9changes cliniques.<\/p>\n

Le 23 f\u00e9vrier 2025, le groupe SPRF, form\u00e9 de trois analystes en formation et deux membres de la SPRF, s\u2019est donc rendu dans les locaux de l\u2019API \u00e0 Istanbul, o\u00f9 nous avons \u00e9t\u00e9 chaleureusement accueillis par Alper Sahin et les membres de son groupe de travail. Inspir\u00e9s par leur geste, nous leur avons aussi apport\u00e9 un cadeau\u00a0; le choix s\u2019est port\u00e9 sur un mod\u00e8le r\u00e9duit d\u2019une sculpture de Camille Claudel intitul\u00e9e \u00ab\u00a0La Valse\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n

\"\"L\u2019intensit\u00e9 de la vie et de l\u2019\u0153uvre de Camille Claudel, le mouvement, la libert\u00e9, le d\u00e9s\u00e9quilibre momentan\u00e9 incarn\u00e9s dans cette Valse sensuelle et tourbillonnante \u2026 peut-\u00eatre symbolisait-elle pour nous \u00e0 la fois l\u2019anticipation de la d\u00e9stabilisation qu\u2019offre toute rencontre avec l\u2019autre, et celle de la d\u00e9couverte d\u2019Istanbul \u00ab\u00a0aux mille visages\u00a0\u00bb \u2013 orient et occident entrelac\u00e9s, entre deux mers, entre deux mondes.<\/p>\n

Une analyste en formation de la SPRF et une analyste en formation de l\u2019API s\u2019\u00e9taient port\u00e9es volontaires pour pr\u00e9senter quelques s\u00e9ances, en anglais\u00a0: il faut souligner ici que ni l\u2019une, ni l\u2019autre ne pr\u00e9sentait dans sa langue maternelle. Nous \u00e9tions plong\u00e9s dans un \u00ab\u00a0entre les langues\u00a0\u00bb, un monde d\u2019entre-deux o\u00f9 l\u2019anglais venait condenser \u00e0 la fois l\u2019\u00e9trange et le familier, ce m\u00e9lange d\u2019inconnu et de reconnaissance qui fait la force d\u2019une rencontre.<\/p>\n

Les deux pr\u00e9sentations, passionnantes, concernaient des patientes dont l\u2019une, fonctionnant sur un mode hyst\u00e9rique, \u00e9tait allong\u00e9e sur le divan et l\u2019autre, re\u00e7ue en face-\u00e0-face souffrait de troubles psychosomatiques. Les s\u00e9ances ont ouvert sur de nombreux th\u00e8mes\u00a0:\u00a0 la force du transfert homosexuel chez ces deux patientes et la question de la s\u00e9duction, de l\u2019agir, et de la fa\u00e7on dont ils peuvent \u00eatre travaill\u00e9s selon le cadre (divan ou face-\u00e0-face). Nous avons beaucoup parl\u00e9 de la question du corps, de la fa\u00e7on dont le corporel agit sur la relation entre patient et analyste. Nous avons discut\u00e9 de l\u2019impact du fonctionnement respectif des patientes sur les choix techniques (choix du cadre, interpr\u00e9tation de transfert ou pas, etc. ) et plus g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement sur les diff\u00e9rences de technique analytique entre fran\u00e7ais et turcs.<\/p>\n

Alper Sahin nous a ensuite fait d\u00e9couvrir le Mus\u00e9e de peinture de sculpture de la banque Is, consacr\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019art turc depuis la fin de l\u2019Empire Ottoman jusqu\u2019\u00e0 nos jours \u2013 un mus\u00e9e m\u00e9connu dot\u00e9 d\u2019une splendide collection, o\u00f9 nous avons pu constater aussi la force des liens artistiques qui lient la Turquie moderne \u00e0 la France. Nous avons ensuite d\u00een\u00e9 tous ensemble dans un excellent restaurant turc et scell\u00e9 l\u2019avenir de nos \u00e9changes scientifiques en discutant de notre prochaine rencontre, cette fois \u00e0 Paris, autour d\u2019un th\u00e8me qu\u2019il nous reste \u00e0 d\u00e9terminer. <\/span><\/p>\n

[1]<\/a> Le document joint pr\u00e9cise\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Disque solaire. L’inspiration du motif vient du \u00ab\u00a0disque solaire\u00a0\u00bb en bronze des Hattis qui plus tard devint le symbole de l’univers vers la fin de la p\u00e9riode Hittite\u00a0\u00bb. Le disque a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9couvert lors des fouilles d’Alacahoyuk et date de 2100-2000 avant J.C.<\/p>\n

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En 2023, un projet d\u2019\u00e9changes cliniques et th\u00e9oriques entre analystes en formation de la SPRF et de l\u2019Association psychanalytique d\u2019Istanbul (API) a vu le jour sur l\u2019initiative d\u2019Alper Sahin, membre de l\u2019API et responsable d\u2019un groupe de travail consacr\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tude de la psychanalyse fran\u00e7aise, et de Zo\u00e9 Andreyev, membre de la SPRF.<\/p>\n

Les deux soci\u00e9t\u00e9s entretiennent depuis de nombreuses ann\u00e9es des relations \u00e0 la fois scientifiques et amicales et nos membres formateurs sont r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement sollicit\u00e9s par l\u2019API pour venir \u00e0 Istanbul animer des s\u00e9minaires et mener des supervisions de groupe d\u2019analystes en formation.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"default","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"set","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[2028],"tags":[2031,2018],"class_list":["post-10745","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-editorial","tag-2031","tag-accueil"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"\nPARIS-ISTANBUL, aller(s)-retour(s) - Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 Psychanalytique de Recherche et de Formation<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/sprf.asso.fr\/sprfwp\/2025\/03\/10\/paris-istamboul-allers-retours\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"PARIS-ISTANBUL, aller(s)-retour(s) - Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 Psychanalytique de Recherche et de Formation\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"En 2023, un projet d\u2019\u00e9changes cliniques et th\u00e9oriques entre analystes en formation de la SPRF et de l\u2019Association psychanalytique d\u2019Istanbul (API) a vu le jour sur l\u2019initiative d\u2019Alper Sahin, membre de l\u2019API et responsable d\u2019un groupe de travail consacr\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tude de la psychanalyse fran\u00e7aise, et de Zo\u00e9 Andreyev, membre de la SPRF. 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