{"id":10202,"date":"2024-10-01T16:07:20","date_gmt":"2024-10-01T15:07:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sprf.asso.fr\/sprfwp\/?p=10202"},"modified":"2024-10-01T16:22:58","modified_gmt":"2024-10-01T15:22:58","slug":"pas-de-place-pour-le-bla-bla","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sprf.asso.fr\/sprfwp\/2024\/10\/01\/pas-de-place-pour-le-bla-bla\/","title":{"rendered":"PAS DE PLACE POUR LE BLA-BLA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dans un article r\u00e9cent du journal <em>Le Monde<\/em> sur le TDAH (Trouble du d\u00e9ficit de l\u2019attention avec ou sans hyperactivit\u00e9) une p\u00e9dopsychiatre explique\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Le TDAH est un trouble m\u00e9dical, comme l\u2019hypertension, il n\u2019y a pas de place pour le bla-bla\u00a0\u00bb<a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/0D1BA1A3-7ECB-438E-9CFF-B9A22AC1545D#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Cette affirmation, pas tr\u00e8s avenante pour les hypertendus, ancre toujours un peu plus les pathologies de l\u2019enfance du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des troubles neurod\u00e9veloppementaux (TND) et nous \u00e9loigne totalement de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 de la vie psychique.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ces approches, totalement centr\u00e9es sur les neurosciences, interrogent la place de la psychiatrie renvoy\u00e9e sans cesse vers la neuropsychiatrie !\u00a0\u00a0 Car la psychiatrie perd tout sens depuis que les sciences humaines l\u2019ont d\u00e9laiss\u00e9e. Il n\u2019y a plus d\u2019approche institutionnelle. Penser le sujet, son histoire, sa vie psychique, ses interactions avec son environnement, sa subjectivit\u00e9, sont obsol\u00e8tes.\u00a0 L\u2019approche psychanalytique est ignor\u00e9e, voire totalement rejet\u00e9e. Seules les approches cognitives ont encore une place.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On peut d\u2019ailleurs se demander s\u2019il n\u2019y a pas un lien avec la d\u00e9saffection dont la psychiatrie est l\u2019objet\u00a0: seuls 52% des postes de psychiatrie \u00e9taient occup\u00e9s en 2024 contre 75 % il y a 10 ans<a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/0D1BA1A3-7ECB-438E-9CFF-B9A22AC1545D#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a>. L\u2019absorption et la dilution de la psychiatrie dans la m\u00e9dicalisation \u00e0 outrance ne sont-elles pas en train de la tuer d\u00e9finitivement ?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pas de place pour le bla-bla, pas de place pour la \u2018<em>talking cure\u2019<\/em>\u00a0! Pas de place, donc, pour penser la vie psychique, ses constructions et ses fantasmes, ses refoulements et sa pulsionnalit\u00e9. Il nous faut nous interroger sur ce foss\u00e9 qui s\u2019est creus\u00e9 avec les disciplines m\u00e9dicales, alors m\u00eame que le recours \u00e0 des m\u00e9thodes parfois totalement irrationnelles, n\u2019a jamais \u00e9t\u00e9 aussi important.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nous avons \u00e0 retrouver une place. Ne pas rester dans l\u2019indiff\u00e9renciation des m\u00e9thodes \u00ab\u00a0psy\u00a0\u00bb. Affirmer un savoir, une m\u00e9thode, une approche de la vie psychique.\u00a0 Et, peut-\u00eatre, r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir \u00e0 l\u2019histoire de ces trente derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es. Qui est responsable de ce divorce\u00a0? Qui a d\u00e9laiss\u00e9 qui\u00a0? Les psychanalystes se sont-ils trop enferm\u00e9s dans leurs th\u00e9orisations sans se soucier du quotidien, de la souffrance des patients dans les services de psychiatrie, voire de la souffrance des soignants\u00a0? Avons-nous trop recherch\u00e9 l\u2019or pur de la psychanalyse avec, il faut le reconna\u00eetre, \u00e0 une certaine \u00e9poque, une arrogance qui emp\u00eachait tout d\u00e9bat ?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ce recul, aujourd\u2019hui, est catastrophique pour la psychiatrie et, encore plus, pour les patients. Les jeunes psychiatres ne font plus d\u2019analyse.\u00a0 On en vient \u00e0 penser la maladie mentale sans la moindre approche psychologique ou m\u00e9tapsychologique.\u00a0 Le sujet n\u2019est plus appr\u00e9hend\u00e9 dans la complexit\u00e9 de sa vie psychique mais seulement \u00e0 travers l\u2019imagerie c\u00e9r\u00e9brale.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Il ne faudrait pas que ce nouveau discours scientifique, au pr\u00e9texte d\u2019<em>une v\u00e9rit\u00e9, <\/em>vienne \u00e0 son tour emp\u00eacher le d\u00e9bat. Au m\u00eame titre que la th\u00e9orie psychanalytique a pu parfois tenir un discours sans appel, alors m\u00eame que le propre de nos disciplines est d\u2019ouvrir \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9change et au travail de penser.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0PS\u00a0: Pour approfondir le sujet on peut lire le num\u00e9ro de Carnet Psy de septembre consacr\u00e9 au TDAH en suivant ce lien\u00a0: <a href=\"https:\/\/carnetpsy.fr\/dossier\/psychopathologies-du-tdah-et-de-lhyperactivite\/\">https:\/\/carnetpsy.fr\/dossier\/psychopathologies-du-tdah-et-de-lhyperactivite\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/0D1BA1A3-7ECB-438E-9CFF-B9A22AC1545D#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> <em>Le Monde<\/em> du 25\/09\/2024.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"applewebdata:\/\/0D1BA1A3-7ECB-438E-9CFF-B9A22AC1545D#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> <em>Le Monde<\/em> du 17\/09\/2024.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dans un article r\u00e9cent du journal Le Monde sur le TDAH (Trouble du d\u00e9ficit de l\u2019attention avec ou sans hyperactivit\u00e9) une p\u00e9dopsychiatre explique\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Le TDAH est un trouble m\u00e9dical, comme l\u2019hypertension, il n\u2019y a pas de place pour le bla-bla\u00a0\u00bb[1].\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Cette affirmation, pas tr\u00e8s avenante pour les hypertendus, ancre toujours un peu plus les pathologies de l\u2019enfance du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des troubles neurod\u00e9veloppementaux (TND) et nous \u00e9loigne totalement de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 de la vie psychique.<\/p>\n<p>Ces approches, totalement centr\u00e9es sur les neurosciences, interrogent la place de la psychiatrie renvoy\u00e9e sans cesse vers la neuropsychiatrie !\u00a0\u00a0 Car la psychiatrie perd tout sens depuis que les sciences humaines l\u2019ont d\u00e9laiss\u00e9e. Il n\u2019y a plus d\u2019approche institutionnelle. Penser le sujet, son histoire, sa vie psychique, ses interactions avec son environnement, sa subjectivit\u00e9, sont obsol\u00e8tes.\u00a0 L\u2019approche psychanalytique est ignor\u00e9e, voire totalement rejet\u00e9e. Seules les approches cognitives ont encore une place.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"default","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"set","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[2028],"tags":[2026,2018],"class_list":["post-10202","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-editorial","tag-2026","tag-accueil"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>PAS DE PLACE POUR LE BLA-BLA - Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 Psychanalytique de Recherche et de Formation<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/sprf.asso.fr\/sprfwp\/2024\/10\/01\/pas-de-place-pour-le-bla-bla\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"fr_FR\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"PAS DE PLACE POUR LE BLA-BLA - Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 Psychanalytique de Recherche et de Formation\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Dans un article r\u00e9cent du journal Le Monde sur le TDAH (Trouble du d\u00e9ficit de l\u2019attention avec ou sans hyperactivit\u00e9) une p\u00e9dopsychiatre explique\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Le TDAH est un trouble m\u00e9dical, comme l\u2019hypertension, il n\u2019y a pas de place pour le bla-bla\u00a0\u00bb[1].\u00a0  Cette affirmation, pas tr\u00e8s avenante pour les hypertendus, ancre toujours un peu plus les pathologies de l\u2019enfance du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des troubles neurod\u00e9veloppementaux (TND) et nous \u00e9loigne totalement de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 de la vie psychique.  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